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One of which was due to the issue of fate and free will and due to the focus on free will in christianity whereas astrology had a more of a focus towards the concept of fate due to the premise that you could predict a few persons future based on the alignment of the planets at the moment that they were born so that created a tension between those two subjects the third thing that contributed to the end of the hellenistic tradition was the advent of the arabian empire and egypt fell to the arab armies in 641 ce
So this is the point where the birthplace of hellenistic astrology all of a sudden greek had been used as the primary language in egypt all the way up to that point but then all of a sudden a new culture with a new language came in and sort of took over egypt and that was very slowly and gradually put an end to greek being the primary language there and astrology similarly went into a period of not being practiced as much in egypt during that time this is a map from wikipedia that shows starting in the arabian peninsula
Where like modern day saudi arabia is the islamic empire started and then it started expanding from the 7th and 8th centuries and eventually it took over mesopotamia and took over the middle east all the way to the westernmost portions of india it also took over portions of obviously mesopotamian portions of turkey and then eventually most of north africa all the way into spain and the iberian peninsula all the way over on the top left so that at its height was the sort of extent of the islamic empire in the 7th and 8th centuries
So it was just as big and sort of massive as certainly as as alexander the greats empire and as the roman empire was almost in different ways depending on what century you're talking about so this basically leads to another tradition of astrology so we have the end of the hellenistic tradition by the 7th century and what happens is that by the 8th and 9th centuries there is this flourishing of science and philosophy that occurs under the abbasid dynasty of islamic rulers who spoke arabic in the 8th the 9th century
This dynasty was very favorable towards learning and philosophy and science and also astrology so there was a shift in focus and at one point this new the new rulers wanted to move the capital to this new city which became the city of baghdad and they got together a group of astrologers and asked them to pick an electional chart for the founding of this new city that would be the new capital of the empire and this chart actually survives and it's set for 762 ce let me see here's the here's the car actually this is the chart itself
So the baghdad electional chart it's preserved by a later historian named albiruni and he said that it had sagittarius rising with jupiter in sagittarius the sun was in leo in the ninth house the moon was in libra in the 11th house and venus was in cancer in the eighth house so for those looking at the video you can see the rest of the placements but that's the basic electional chart that they picked for the founding of baghdad and then what happened is baghdad flourished then for several centuries and became a center for science
And philosophy and also astrology at this time they set up translation projects in baghdad in order to translate astrological texts from greek and persian and sanskrit into the new language of arabic and into arabic which became the the new language that everybody was speaking at this time just like greek was like the common language several centuries earlier at the birth of hellenistic astrology so during this time works of earlier hellenistic authors such as dorotheas vedius valens rhetorius and ptolemy were translated and they recovered some pieces of the older traditions and then synthesized them together with some new techniques
And new things that had developed in the interim between the traditions so one of the things that happened at this time that was important in terms of the history of astrology is that horary astrology gets fully established as a full-fledged fourth branch of the tradition at this time so we do see some earlier references to horary in the hellenistic tradition but they're kind of like initially references in passing in the text of dorotheas and then eventually we see a few horary charts that survive from the 5th century in the hellenistic tradition
But we don't have any full textbooks or works on horror astrology from the hellenistic tradition for some reason and it's not referenced very much for the most part natal astrology seems to be the primary focus of most of the astrologers in the hellenistic tradition but by the time we get to the early medieval tradition horary astrology is a major player at this point and we do see some of the first full-fledged texts on horror astrology from authors such as masha'allah sullivan bishop and theophilus of odessa yeah
So that's really important i should define horary astrology so hurry the premise is that you can cast a chart for the moment that a client asks an astrologer an important question that's important and personally relevant and somewhat pressing to them and that the chart cast for the moment of the exchange of the question will tell you something about not just the nature of the question itself that the chart will describe the nature of the question but that the chart also will describe the outcome of the question
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